A MUST READ! Ethiopia & Kenya(?) plans to annex/rule all of Somalia!!

[AbuNas-IS-back]

To all my Somali bros & sis to email the author of this article and express your anger to this delusional plan to rule our motherland. Its not just south Somalia but also Somaliland and Puntland!

His email address is dkipkorir@ktk.co.ke



Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia

By DONALD KIPKORIR


Last month, Lehmans Brothers and Merrill Lynch, the world’s foremost investment banks, went bankrupt and we witnessed the financial chaos in the western capitals.

In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia.

The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem.

Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum.

If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.

I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum.

Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.

Annexing Somalia is thus in our strategic interest and we must do it now as the financial meltdown continues to take away the attention of the world.

Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units.

The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.

There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism.

Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state.

Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle.

Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line.

The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million.

Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli.

In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan.

For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi.

We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country.

When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin.

Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us.

Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100.

International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either.

But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place.

If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal.

The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful.

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source:

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion...r/-/index.html

[_abdirazzaq_]

Originally Posted by AbuNas-IS-back

To all my Somali bros & sis to email the author of this article and express your anger to this delusional plan to rule our motherland. Its not just south Somalia but also Somaliland and Puntland!

His email address is this By dkipkorir@ktk.co.ke



Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia

By DONALD KIPKORIR


Last month, Lehmans Brothers and Merrill Lynch, the world’s foremost investment banks, went bankrupt and we witnessed the financial chaos in the western capitals.

In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia.

The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem.

Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum.

If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.

I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum.

Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.

Annexing Somalia is thus in our strategic interest and we must do it now as the financial meltdown continues to take away the attention of the world.

Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units.

The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.

There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism.

Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state.

Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle.

Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line.

The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million.

Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli.

In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan.

For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi.

We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country.

When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin.

Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us.

Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100.

International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either.

But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place.

If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal.

The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful.

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source:

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion...r/-/index.html

US who they are there working for IMF and world bank conflicts all over africa was designed to keep china out making deals with them so they are not dependent on america its all desinged to keep the anglo american and uk from losing the world power poisition to china and they are doing this next stage moving their attention out of middle east ....with african man named obama he is corporations from wall streets number 1 choice.

its fascism when he says US any wealth out of africa is for american companies who have interest in the country

all his saying is true but he wants to spin it like the are profiting they only a smoke screen cover for IMF and worldbank and their job is to keep china out

[Muslim1]

As-salamu alaykum Brother

Jaakalahu khayran for the reminder of what is happening in our country, brother first it really made me feel angry but than i saw that the man was dreaming, cus kenyaz dad(america) and mum(britain) our both in financial and political meltdown ,so let me ask two things

How does he plan to support his idea financialy? let alone politically cus the kenyas knw its not in they're interest to mess with the somalis,

And secondly how and who is gonna do that for him when ethiopia that put more than 80,000 soldiers in somalia ,is struggling to stabalise(actually destablise) mogadisho alone.

But this shows one thing that no one is there to help but to gain so lets stand up for our country cus sooner or later things could change, and our country and ppl are only getting worser so lets beg allah and work together to save our country from its enermies,

WE OUR THE COUNTRIES FUTURE

Wassalamu alaikum warahmatul lahi wabarakatuh.

Akhuukum fil Aqidah

[Cabdulaahi01]

im not surprised really, about a year ago i read some article about how the Ethiopian Government wanted to make a two state solution and divide Southern Somalia into four federal regions, Puntland, Hawiyeland, Jubbaland and Rahanweinland, the Ogaden to be isolated from the rest of Somalia and limit to the extent possible commercial and traffic links between the Ogaden and Somalia.


http://www.somaliland.org/2008/09/22...n-for-somalia/

[hassan]

Originally Posted by AbuNas-IS-back

To all my Somali bros & sis to email the author of this article and express your anger to this delusional plan to rule our motherland. Its not just south Somalia but also Somaliland and Puntland!

His email address is dkipkorir@ktk.co.ke



Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia

By DONALD KIPKORIR


Last month, Lehmans Brothers and Merrill Lynch, the world’s foremost investment banks, went bankrupt and we witnessed the financial chaos in the western capitals.

In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia.

The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem.

Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum.

If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.

I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum.

Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.

Annexing Somalia is thus in our strategic interest and we must do it now as the financial meltdown continues to take away the attention of the world.

Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units.

The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.

There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism.

Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state.

Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle.

Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line.

The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million.

Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli.

In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan.

For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi.

We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country.

When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin.

Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us.

Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100.

International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either.

But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place.

If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal.

The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful.

--------

source:

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion...r/-/index.html

lol i just found that out on somali website but i dont think is negotiable with somalis. If i had to choose either kenya or ethio. kenya all the time, hella somalis live dere plus somalis are running that cuntry, business wise, education, security(top rank police is somali down dere). But hell nah it wont happen. Somalis are focusing on themselves. war waa niila tashaday inakan puqland iyo seelland, jubbaland ayaad ku heysaan. ka kaca hurdada

[Zaitoonah]

The author of this article is under the impression that annexing Somalia is going to be a piece of cake. The only way for this annexation to take place is through the recognition and acknowledgment of the international community. The author uses Texas as an example, and since 1845, the fourth Geneva Convention made it much more difficult for a state to bypass international law through the use of annexation. International law forbids annexation of territories gained by military conquest, and unless the author can miraculously convince the government of Somalia to agree to his outrageous plan, his desire to divide Somalia between Kenya and Ethiopia is fruitless. If I’m not mistaken, what the author is proposing is a de-facto annexation, which significantly interferes with the human rights and right of self determination of the occupied people. The occupation of Somalia by two countries with unpersuasive human rights records is as slim as the author winning a noble peace prize.

[Airwaves]

Originally Posted by Zaitoonah

The author of this article is under the impression that annexing Somalia is going to be a piece of cake. The only way for this annexation to take place is through the recognition and acknowledgment of the international community. The author uses Texas as an example, and since 1845, the fourth Geneva Convention made it much more difficult for a state to bypass international law through the use of annexation. International law forbids annexation of territories gained by military conquest, and unless the author can miraculously convince the government of Somalia to agree to his outrageous plan, his desire to divide Somalia between Kenya and Ethiopia is fruitless. If I’m not mistaken, what the author is proposing is a de-facto annexation, which significantly interferes with the human rights and right of self determination of the occupied people. The occupation of Somalia by two countries with unpersuasive human rights records is as slim as the author winning a noble peace prize.

Yes sir

The writer of the article has made it pretty evident that he has no clue let alone the basic common sense of an infant.

Im mean he’s blatantly given little to absolutely no consideration to the; law, the people, human rights and other implication that will arise with this beyond delusion plan of his. Its probably seems to him that annexing a sovereign nation is as simple as a getting a few western leaders on side in calling it.

The paper itself a load of bull but what bugs me the most is that the fact that this nonsense article was allowed to be put in print on a supposedly national newspaper.

[Kismayo_Boy]

this should be a wake up call for all somalias warlords,nationalist,shiekhs and seccsionsit alike
we as soamlias need to relise the bigger picture lets stop feuding with each other and wake up to threat of kenyan and ethopian occupation

[WiseGuy]

Someone else already posted this topic: http://www.somalilife.com/vbforum/sh...890#post649890


This is fucking bullshit! It will NEVER happen! Ethiopia and Kenya couldn't feed their own poor or take care of their sick, let alone takeover Somalia.

Neither of them have the balls to even think (let alone act on) such plan.

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